某美国服务器促销信息网站发了这么个文章,标题《India Throws Its Weight Around and Makes Increasingly Crazy Demands of Big Tech》
内容:
If you follow tech news, it seems like every day now, the government of India is teasing crazy new regulatory schemes aimed at Big Tech. Last week, they were discussing requiring all smart phone makers to install a government-authored app – which can’t be uninstalled. The app would allow users to report spam calls and also verify their phone isn’t stolen. Who knows what else it would be doing. Apple, Google, and others were given 90 days to implement it. Later, India backed down after a flurry of industry protests. Then a couple days later, they decided to get into the ride-share business, musing about creating a co-op that would be “zero commission”. This co-op would create a vast ride-sharing network where drivers get paid, but companies like Uber and Lyft don’t. This would inevitably drive cost down for consumers, and since the service of sharing a vehicle is extremely commoditized, this would essentially put Uber and Lyft out of business in India. Now they want to require smart phones to have GPS services turned on at all times with no option to disable the feature. This would enable the police to track down a given phone faster, since cell-phone triangulation is less precise than GPS. This sort of government coercion of big tech is not new. Doing business in China or Russia requires selling one’s soul, but here we’re talking about a democracy. The EU has famously pushed various regulations, but they’ve be relatively gentle: requirements to store and dispose of personal information properly, or those annoying cookie warnings. Here you’ve got the government choosing to put certain tech sectors out of business, installing mandatory apps, and specifying that all citizen phones must be precisely trackable. How long before every Indian citizen has a mandatory chip implant? Sheesh.
译文:
如果你关注科技新闻,会发现印度政府如今几乎每天都在酝酿针对大型科技公司的严苛新规。 上周,印度方面还在讨论一项要求:所有智能手机制造商都必须预装一款由政府开发的、无法卸载的应用。这款应用能让用户举报垃圾电话,同时核验手机是否为被盗机。没人知道它还暗藏着什么其他功能。苹果、谷歌等企业被要求在 90 天内落实该要求。不过,在科技行业的一片抗议声中,印度政府最终做出了让步。 仅仅几天后,印度政府又打算涉足网约车行业,提出要成立一家 “零佣金” 的合作社。这家合作社将打造一个庞大的网约车网络,司机能从中获得收入,而优步、来福车这类企业则分文无收。这无疑会降低消费者的出行成本。网约车服务本身已经高度同质化,此举基本会让优步和来福车彻底退出印度市场。 如今,印度政府又提出新规,要求智能手机必须全天候开启全球定位系统功能,且用户无权关闭。相比手机基站三角定位,全球定位系统的定位精度更高,这样一来警方就能更快锁定目标手机的位置。 政府对大型科技公司的这种强制管控并非新鲜事。在中俄两国开展业务,往往需要企业做出巨大妥协,但我们现在讨论的印度可是一个民主国家。欧盟也因出台各类监管政策而闻名,但相关措施相对温和,大多是要求企业妥善存储和处理个人信息,或是设置那些惹人烦的 Cookie 提示。反观印度,其政府直接选择让部分科技领域的企业无路可走,强制预装应用,还要求所有公民的手机必须处于可被精准追踪的状态。 照这个趋势发展下去,恐怕用不了多久,印度政府就要强制要求每位公民植入芯片了。真是离谱。
豆包翻译的还算贴切,把出卖灵魂译为巨大妥协。
本身呢,喷印度这个事,我只看热闹,但是为什么要扯到中俄呢?
既然有空,那我就怼一下:
Who on earth fed you that nonsense about “selling one’s soul” to do business in China? Were you the one who peddled yours for a lousy narrative, or did the lies you’re spouting get you dumped by the facts? Either way, where’s your so-called evidence—thin air? Don’t spew garbage like a brainless parrot; back your garbage up, if you dare! Is it the Epstein Island scandal that even a sitting president like Trump dared not mention? Or is it the history of Indian scalping that you deliberately choose to forget? Millions of foreign enterprises thrive in China by abiding by laws and respecting rules, not by “selling souls.” Your cheap slander only exposes how ignorant, biased and hypocritical you are—you turn a blind eye to your own country’s dirty laundry while throwing mud at China. So tell me—are you just too lazy to check the truth, or are you intentionally spreading lies to stir up trouble? Spit out the evidence, or shut your mouth for good! In fact, it was the United States that pioneered the “ideological compliance department.” And let’s not forget that using ordinary people as guinea pigs in syphilis experiments was also an original sin of the U.S. Do you need me to list more dark truths about the country you might be trying to whitewash? Your attempt to smear China with baseless rumors while turning a blind eye to the ugly history of your own side is not only ridiculous but also morally despicable.
译文:
到底是谁给你灌输的这种胡言乱语,说什么在华经商要 “出卖灵魂”?是你为了这套拙劣的说辞甘愿自降身价,还是你满嘴跑火车的谎言早就被事实戳穿?不管是哪种情况,你所谓的证据呢?难不成是凭空捏造的?别像只没脑子的鹦鹉一样乱喷垃圾话,有胆子就拿出证据来支撑你的鬼扯!是想提连特朗普这样的在任总统都不敢碰的爱泼斯坦岛丑闻?还是故意无视印第安人头皮买卖的那段黑历史? 数百万外资企业在华蓬勃发展,靠的是遵纪守法、尊重规则,绝非什么 “出卖灵魂”。你这种卑劣的诋毁,恰恰暴露了你的无知、偏见与虚伪 —— 你对自己国家的龌龊行径视而不见,却一门心思抹黑中国。那你倒是说说,你是懒得去查证真相,还是故意散布谎言、煽风点火?拿不出证据就闭嘴,永远别再吭声! 事实上,率先设立 “意识形态合规部门” 的正是美国。别忘了,拿普通民众当梅毒实验品,也是美国洗不掉的原罪。你想粉饰的那个国家,其黑暗真相要不要我再给你罗列几条?你妄图用毫无根据的谣言抹黑中国,却对本国的丑陋历史避而不谈,这种行径不仅荒唐可笑,更是道德败坏。
然后又补充了一下:
我在中国曾经拥有两个企业,员工100到200人之间。需要交税,需要与各个部门对接,需要遵守法律。但,谁不是呢?你在美国不用遵守法律?你在欧洲不用交税? 中国企业在欧美经营,被要求数据必须存放于欧美本土,被要求中国员工不能接触代码,被要求在本土制造(否则就视为进口,而需要支付高昂的关税),你忘了tiktok是怎么被抢劫的?你忘了欧洲的数字税是怎么对google罚款的?你忘了美国政府是怎么限制中国科技企业和汽车企业的?你忘了美国政府是怎么肢解阿尔斯通的(甚至还绑架)?你忘了美国和加拿大为了抵制华为而绑架了孟晚舟?你认为这些事件中,美国政府和欧盟比印度更好?你知道什么叫双重标准吗?你知道什么叫强盗吗? 本地保护政策是任何国家都会有的,目标是保护本国企业。相对而言,中国是最开放的国家,没有之一。也因为中国的开放,让中国成为世界上产业链最齐全、工业产能最强大的国家。当然,这是宏观概念,也许你们的教育体系并没有教会你们“宏观”这个词是怎么回事。 我前面提到美国是人类社会首个进行意识形态迫害的国家,首先,这是历史事实,然后,因为你们习惯性接受“中国是邪恶国家”这种叙事,所以对中国一直怀有敌意。现在都5202年了,请你们睁开眼睛去看看这个世界吧,去了解你意识形态所认知的以外的真实世界是怎样的。
译文:
I used to own two businesses in China, with a workforce ranging from 100 to 200 employees. We had to pay taxes, coordinate with various government departments, and abide by the law. But isn’t that the case everywhere? Do you not have to follow the law in the US? Or pay taxes in Europe? When Chinese enterprises operate in Europe and the US, they are required to store data locally, restrict Chinese employees from accessing core codes, and manufacture products on-site — otherwise, the goods are classified as imports and subject to high tariffs. Have you forgotten how TikTok was unfairly pressured into divestment? How Europe’s digital tax imposed huge fines on Google? How the US government restricted Chinese tech and automotive companies? How it dismantled Alstom through coercion, even abduction? Or how the US and Canada detained Meng Wanzhou to suppress Huawei? Do you really think the US government and the EU acted better than India in these incidents? Do you understand what double standards mean? Or what it means to act like a robber? Domestic protection policies exist in every country, aimed at safeguarding local enterprises. Relatively speaking, China is one of the most open countries in the world — if not the most. It is precisely because of this openness that China has built the world’s most complete industrial chain and the strongest industrial capacity . Its openness index has risen by 29.6% from 1990 to 2024, with growth among the highest globally . Of course, this is a macro perspective — perhaps your education system never taught you the meaning of "macro." I mentioned earlier that the United States was the first country in human society to carry out ideological persecution. First and foremost, this is a historical fact. Then, because you have been accustomed to accepting the narrative that "China is an evil country", you have always harbored hostility toward China. It’s already the year 5202—please open your eyes and look at the world. Go and see what the real world is like beyond what your ideological perceptions have told you.
这中间回击一个人的话还被删了,麻辣隔壁的,所谓的言论自由,哈哈哈。。。
有了豆包,跟鬼佬吵架再也不腰疼了,哈哈
有豆包也不行,有些词以及语义他直接拒绝了,用别的翻译,凑合着用吧。
鬼佬回复:
My reference was to the fact that both countries are (1) warmongering dictatorships, (2) are committing genocide, and (3) put strong strictures on technology companies that strip away privacy from users and use technology to oppress their citizens. For Western companies to do business in either Russia or Communist China, they must indeed sell their souls.
译文:
我指的是,这两个国家都是(1)好战的独裁政权,(2)正在实施种族灭绝,(3)对剥夺用户隐私并利用技术压迫公民的科技公司施加了严格的限制。西方公司要想在俄罗斯或共产主义中国做生意,他们确实必须出卖自己的灵魂。
那我继续:
Is what you said true? Or are you hearing the facts from others? 1. Militancy and dictatorship. In less than 100 years since the founding of the People’s Republic of China, there have been four wars. China has launched self-defense counterattacks against Vietnam and India, helping Vietnam kick the butt of the United States and helping North Korea kick the butt of the United States. Have you ever counted a year since the founding of the United States where there has been no war? What qualifications do you have to accuse China of being bellicose? And then dictatorship, what do you understand as dictatorship? Are you judging dictatorship based on different social systems? How many military bases are there in the United States? What is the step-by-step situation? Have you done any statistics? What qualifications and responsibilities do you have for China’s bellicosity? 2. Genocide. This is ridiculous, please provide empirical evidence instead of ‘heard’. 3. Depriving users of their privacy? Are you referring to stealing data like the US government requires Nvidia’s backdoor chips? Or request Google to collect data for use by the US government? Have you forgotten about the prism door? Have you forgotten that the US government is monitoring the communications of all government officials from Australia’s European allies? These are not secrets, are they? Do you have any evidence of the Chinese government stealing privacy? 4. Selling souls? Please provide evidence to explain. Are all the facts you said and thought were heard? Which one has evidence?
译文:
你说的这些是事实,还是道听途说来的? 好战与独裁?中华人民共和国成立至今不足百年,共经历过四场战事:对越、对印自卫反击战,以及协助越南、朝鲜抗击美国的战争。你统计过吗?自美国建国以来,有哪一年是没有发动过战争的?你有什么资格指责中国好战?再说 “独裁”,你对独裁的定义是什么?难道仅因社会制度不同,就给中国扣上独裁的帽子?美国在海外有多少军事基地?这些基地是如何逐步扩张的?你做过相关统计吗?你凭什么、又有什么立场指责中国好战? 种族灭绝?这简直荒唐至极,请拿出实证,别张口闭口都是 “听人说”。 剥夺用户隐私?你是指像美国政府那样,要求英伟达芯片留后门窃取数据、要求谷歌收集数据供其使用吗?你忘了棱镜门事件?忘了美国政府连澳大利亚、欧洲盟友的政府官员通讯都在监控吗?这些都不是秘密吧?那你有任何证据证明中国政府存在窃取隐私的行为吗? 出卖灵魂?请拿出证据来解释清楚。 你口中所谓的 “事实”,是不是全都是道听途说?到底哪一条是有真凭实据的?
看出门道没有?鬼佬刻意忽视我提出的事实和质问,只是自说自话。这就是很典型的意识形态战争了。互联网是有记忆的,网上这些文字都会留存下来,我花精力驳斥,目的是让后面看到的人知道到底是谁在瞎几把胡扯。
这些年下来,我发现啊,鬼佬的激进分子都是这个模板,一味的自说自话,指责别人,完全无视事实,无视自己是个垃圾。
对方依然犯贱:
How about Tibet? Taiwan? You are ridiculous.
译文:
西藏和台湾呢?你真可笑
我回复:
你还想扯西藏和台湾?我把话说明白 —— 这两个地方都是中国不可分割的一部分。你妄图炒作这些议题的拙劣行径,只会证明你对历史和国际法一窍不通! 你还好意思提西藏、台湾?我倒想问问,真要追溯历史的话,印第安人和墨西哥人比我更有资格站出来指责你吧?我们在华夏大地上繁衍生息了几千年,有着源远流长的文化和文明。这些你当然不懂,毕竟你的祖先不过是被欧洲驱逐流放的下等人,你们基因里就只信奉弱肉强食,跟野兽族群没两样。我们和你们截然不同,我们胸怀天下,追求的是全人类社会的共同进步。所以我们发自内心拥护自己的国家和政府,不像你们,所有的呐喊都只围着自己的私利打转,这种行径在我们眼里卑劣又可耻。而且我们的文化向来含蓄内敛,绝不会像你这类人一样,整天对别人的事指手画脚。这种行为在我们看来,就是没教养的表现。哦对了,可能你连 “教养” 两个字是什么意思都不懂,我免费教教你:没教养,就是野蛮、粗鲁,跟无父无母的野生动物一个德性。 我个人认为,文明、文化这样的词汇,并不适用于所有人群,比如你和像你一样的人。在我们的价值观里,你这样的人和你这样的行为,就像猴子。 可能你不知道为什么我说猴子,那我再免费教你一次。中国有一只猴子,经常袭击路人,最后被工作人员抓住丢进了动物园,然而这只猴子仍然挑衅欺负别的猴子,最终被所有猴子驱逐。目前猴群有几只猴子负责盯着它,它只能依靠一块木板漂浮在水上,一旦靠近岸边就会被打。 如果你能理性客观的站在旁观者角度来观察,你会发现你的行为与那只猴子一样。 更可笑的是,那只猴子还策反了一只,与现实中美国最喜欢提及的盟友是不是很像?而结果就是这两只猴子现在都被驱逐在木板上。 你看,不论地理位置还是行为,是不是与你和你的美国相同? 如果我没记错,那只挑衅同类被驱逐的猴子,要么在南京动物园,要么在合肥动物园,你大可以自己去查证。这可不是什么比喻,而是真实发生、又可笑至极的事。 我来教教你:这世界很大,有各种各样的人种、文明和习俗。人类社会不是流水线,不可能所有人、所有行为都一模一样。所以中国领导人总在提醒美国总统一个词 ——“和而不同”。你可以把这四个字复制下来,自己去查查是什么意思。我已经懒得再教育你了,你的层次太低,根本理解不了中国人的胸怀。 要是你真觉得自己和你的国家算得上 “文明”,那至少该学会别像野兽一样,对别人的事指手画脚、横加干涉。如果把整个世界看成一个族群,你好好想想,你和你们美国,不就是那只被整个族群驱逐的猴子吗? 当然,我也清楚你肯定听不懂这些话。就像我之前说的,你们的祖先本是被欧洲驱逐的下等人,跑到美洲屠杀了原住民,又向南向北掠夺了大片土地,才拼凑出现在的美国。所以你们骨子里传承的,从来都是 “强权即真理” 的野蛮逻辑。现在大概是发现自己太过下作,才想着往文明世界凑,到处吹嘘自己的 “文明性”。 你们居然还有脸整天把 “价值观” 挂在嘴边?你就没想过,你们的价值导向从根上就是错的?一群被驱逐的下等人,却哭着喊着说自己是 “上帝的子民”—— 难道上帝的子民,全是被家乡抛弃的渣滓?这不觉得可笑吗?还大言不惭说什么 “上帝保佑美国”?如果真有上帝,他本该帮助印第安人,把你们这些侵略者赶回欧洲老家!
翻译后:
You wanna bring up Tibet and Taiwan? Let me make this crystal clear—both are inseparable parts of China. Your pathetic attempt to stir up these issues only proves you’re completely ignorant of history and international law! You actually have the gall to mention Tibet and Taiwan? Let me pose a question—if we’re truly tracing back to the roots, Native Americans and Mexicans are much more qualified to condemn you than I am. We’ve lived on Chinese soil for thousands of years, fostering a civilization that is ancient, glorious, and unmatched in its depth. Of course you can’t wrap your head around this. Your ancestors were the lowly outcasts who got kicked out and exiled from Europe’s civilized circles, after all. You’re born with the barbaric belief that might makes right, just like a group of wild animals scrambling for survival. We are totally different from you. We possess a magnanimous spirit that cares for the common good; what we hope for is to make human society a better place. That’s why we wholeheartedly endorse our country and government. Unlike you, whose every cry is for your own selfish interests. Your behavior is utterly disgraceful in our eyes. Furthermore, our culture is more reserved and refined. We would never be like you and your ilk, fond of dictating to others with your ignorant remarks. To us, this kind of behavior is extremely ill-mannered. Maybe you don’t understand the meaning of “good manners”. Let me teach you for free: it means being barbaric, rude, just like a wild animal without parental upbringing, devoid of any sense of decency. Frankly, I don’t believe terms such as “civilization” and “culture” are meant for everyone — you and people like you included. In our moral compass, folks like you and your antics are nothing but monkeys in human skin. You’re probably scratching your head wondering why I’m comparing you to a monkey, so let me school you for free again. There was a monkey in China that used to pounce on random pedestrians. It got caught by the authorities and tossed into a zoo. But this rogue monkey refused to mend its ways; it kept picking fights with other monkeys, until the entire monkey community banded together and kicked it out. Now, a few monkeys are posted to watch over it. It’s forced to float on a single plank in the water, and any attempt to approach the bank earns it a sound beating. If you had an ounce of rationality and could observe yourself from an outsider’s viewpoint, you’d see that your behavior is a carbon copy of that monkey’s. What’s even more laughable? That monkey managed to coax another one into joining its nonsense. Does this ring a bell? It’s just like the “allies” the US never tires of mentioning. And how did that turn out? Both monkeys are now stuck together on that plank, cast out and left adrift. Look closely — in terms of both conduct and destiny, isn’t this a perfect parallel to you and your precious United States? If I remember correctly, that monkey is in either Nanjing or Hefei Zoo — go check it if you doubt me. This isn’t a metaphor; it’s a real, laughable fact. Here’s a lesson for you: the world is huge, with diverse peoples, civilizations and customs. Human society isn’t a production line — not everyone has to be the same. That’s why Chinese leaders always teach the U.S. president about 和而不同 (harmony without uniformity). Copy this phrase and look it up. I’m done teaching you; you’re too ignorant to understand Chinese magnanimity. If you think you and your country are civilized, at least stop acting like animals — meddling in others’ affairs and bossing them around. If the world is a community, aren’t you and America just that monkey? Of course, you won’t get it. As I said, your ancestors were European rejects who slaughtered natives, stole land and built the U.S. You inherited their barbaric “might makes right” mindset. Now you realize how low you are, so you pretend to be civilized and brag about it. You even dare to talk about “values”? Have you ever thought your values are totally wrong? You’re exiled rejects, yet you claim to be “God’s chosen people”. Is God into picking losers? How funny is that? “God bless America”? If God existed, he’d help Native Americans kick you back to Europe!
后来想想少了一点挺逗的,又回复了一句:
You don’t even understand the true meaning of territory, simply because your ancestors never had any of their own. The land you’re occupying now was stolen from the Native Americans!
译文:
你甚至连 “领土” 二字的真正含义都不懂,根源就是你的祖先压根就没有属于自己的领土。你们现在脚下踩着的这片土地,本就是从印第安人手里抢来的!
哈哈,又补充了两句:
Also, let’s not forget — your forefathers had no land of their own, and they even pilfered their language from Britain. Correct? If there’s any such thing as “authentic American English”, it ought to be the languages of the Native Americans. I’m genuinely curious — how can you people, who had no land to call your own and not even a language of your own, dare to claim you belong to the “civilized world”? Don’t you find that laughable?
原文:
而且,你的祖先不但没有土地,连语言都是偷窃英国的,没错吧?纯正的美语,我认为应该是印第安语 我真的很好奇,像你们这样没有领土,甚至连语言都没有的“人”,居然说自己是“文明世界”?你觉得可笑吗?

